The Mystery Behind Beck

Chicago Boyz: I Think I See What Glenn Beck is Doing

The Glenn Beck rally is confusing people.


He is aiming far beyond what most people consider to be the goalposts.

Using Boyd’s continuum for war: Material, Intellectual, Moral.

Analogously for political change: Elections, Institutions, Culture.

Beck sees correctly that the Conservative movement had only limited success because it was good at level 1, for a while, weak on level 2, and barely touched level 3. Talk Radio and the Tea Party are level 3 phenomena, popular outbreaks, which are blowing back into politics.

Someone who asks what the rally has to do with the 2010 election is missing the point.

Beck is building solidarity and cultural confidence in America, its Constitution, its military heritage, its freedom. This is a vision that is despised by the people who have long held the commanding heights of the culture. But is obviously alive and kicking.

Beck is creating positive themes of unity and patriotism and freedom and independence which are above mere political or policy choices, but not irrelevant to them. Political and policy choices rest on a foundation of philosophy, culture, self-image, ideals, religion. Change the foundation, and the rest will flow from that. Defeat the enemy on that plane, and any merely tactical defeat will always be reversible.

I like Glenn.  Sometimes, I can only take him in doses, but I know that he loves this country with unparalleled passion, and I have the utmost respect for the sacrifices he has made to educate so many people.

I did see the rally–most of it, at least–last weekend, though I was not there in person.  I liked it.  John Feeny asked me the other day if I thought it was a “gamechanger”; I replied in the negative, maintaining that I believed it to be the reinforcement of a game-changing that had already taken place throughout the past year.  For me, last year’s 9/12 rally was the gamechanger.  Rick Santelli’s rant was the gamechanger.  Still, I greatly enjoyed what Glenn put together last weekend.

This piece, by Lexington Green (sounds like the name of a eco-friendly porn star) over at Chicago Boyz, captures perfectly what so many people don’t understand about Glenn.  Green points out that “Ronald Reagan said we would not defeat Communism” but rather that “we would transcend it,” and insists that Glenn Beck is “aiming to have America do the same thing to its decaying class of Overlords, transcend them.”

The whole thing was pretty astute, and since I know that the folks here love to talk about Glenn Beck, I thought I’d bring it to everyone’s attention.  Enjoy.



  1. John Buyon says:

    @ Jeff
    what sacrifices has glenn made in service of the country?
    has he spilled blood?
    held elected office?
    assisted in economic or political reforms that ensured justice, and expanded opportunity ?

    all he does is make money off the goons that show up to his events.

  2. Jeff Schreiber says:


    All sacrifices are relative, that’s for sure.

    But I’ll tell you what — I’m up until the wee hours of the morning and relegate myself to five hours or so of sleep so I can maintain this site and get the work done that I might not be able to do the next day. Would I rather be in bed with my wife? You betcha. Would I rather be a little less groggy in the morning? You betcha. So, while I would NEVER compare anything I do here with those who have fought for this nation or for those who have supported them at home, I’ve made sacrifices–relatively speaking, of course–of my own.

    And you can rest assured that I don’t make much money at all off of you goons who show up here every day :)


  3. J.B. says:

    John, neither have I sacrificed in the service of my country ( I did serve my time in the U.S.Army), I have not spilled any of my blood, held elected office
    nor assisted in any political or political reforms. But I do exercise my right to vote, am a law abiding citizen, and love the U.S.A. That would give me a right to do and say the things that Glenn Beck does and says if I had the ability as he does. I’m thankful to him. Just wish I could do more to help him.

  4. NuMexPhil says:


    It all depends on how you define sacrifice. From all accounts, he footed much of the bill for both the rally and Friday evening’s event at the Kennedy Center. He has so many irons in the fire right now at a level of activity and energy that would totally overwhelm most of us.

    But more importantly, he has placed not only himself, but his family squarely in the cross-hairs of every leftist loon. The threats have gotten so bad that he wore a bullet-proof vest Saturday at his wife’s request.

    This doesn’t sound like the makings of an easy, peaceful family life. I doubt they’ll ever enjoy the casual, free-wheeling lifestyle most of us are free to experience.

    And yet, John, I seriously doubt that Glenn would ever try to equate his own personal sacrifices with those of others, especially our fallen and injured military, or of the likes of MLK or his niece or the many who have given so completely.

    So, no, by your definition, perhaps Glenn hasn’t sacrificed. But many sacrifices are not so easily seen.


  5. Dee says:

    John Buyon, Beck has not held office or shed blood, but he has brought forth ideas that give people something to think about that you will not find in the mainstream media. There are 2 sides to issues and our media has let us down, especially where BO is concerned. The media act like teenagers at a Jonas brothers’ concert waving their flashlights and screaming their love for them when it comes to BO.
    Yes, Beck makes money, alot of it and from past posts of yours, I know that you are not fond of those who make more money than you think they should.

  6. Anonymous says:


    That’s a sad post.

    The military didn’t want (anything more to attain than a “nurse”) me, as I was an ‘off-the-record’ white male who didn’t have a legislator in my lineage.

    If I extrapolate from your post, teachers must then be as worthless. Love him or hate him, his exposure of individuals, ideologies, and truth would not be available had he not attained the position he is in. Would you want his position? He has been targeted, abused, chastised, and ridiculed. Not a position I would envy, and certainly a sacrifice.

    He made money… so what, more power to him. I believe, given the river he is swimming up, he’s probably underpaid.

  7. Jordan Bell says:

    So John, what sacrifices have you have done for this country?

    Have you spilt blood in her defense?

    Have you held office in service to her?

    Have you assisted in economic or political reforms that ensured justice and expanded opportunity?

    Or are you just here to belittle someone to turn them into the goon you think them to be?

  8. Randy Wills says:

    My, my, you’re getting a lot of attention, John. Actually, I think that you’re good for AR and I wish that there were more like you who checked in and made bold comments, but you’re never going to be taken seriously if you don’t get over using terms such as “goons” to describe those who see things differently than you do.

    If there is value to what you belive in, then it deserves to be expressed in mature and truthful ways. I watched about 80% of the “Restoring Honor” rally and I observed nothing that would indicate that even one of the attendees was a “goon”, as that word is commonly understood.

    So my question to you is “Why do you resort to that type of untruthful and demeaning language?” It smacks of a person who really doesn’t have the strength of facts or reason behind his arguments so he resorts to name calling. I’ve done that, but somewhere along the road to maturity I became ashamed of it and moved on. I encourage you to do the same.


    P.S. I would also encourage you to actually watch Glenn Beck and get to know him. I believe that he is the most important voice in the public square at this particular time in our political history. Like him or not, you really need to get to know him based on your personal – and hopefully, objective – observations, not what the media makes him out to be, because he IS going to have an effect on the future of U.S. politics.

  9. Gail B. says:

    John, just WHERE was Glenn to have gotten money for his Restoring Honor rally? There was no charge to attend it. The cost of having it was covered by CONTRIBUTIONS. Glenn paid for stuff out of his own pocket (he and his wife rented a place for the next day and GAVE THE TICKETS TO THE EVENT AWAY!

    I suspect that the leftist Progressive are jealous of Glenn Beck because he draws the largest non-prime-time television audience of all the networks, because he draws the largest attendance to his events than any of the Progressive personalities can, and because he represents the American Ideal: Faith, Hope, and Charity.

    Obama thought he had the ultimate catch phrase when he campaigned with “Hope and Change,” which are the very shovels digging the graves for Progressives’ political careers, now that Americans understand that, under Obama there is no HOPE — and that We the People really abhor the CHANGE being structured.

    John, do you find the Founding Fathers’ principles offensive? Do you object to restoration of honor? If so, why are you here?

    Good find, Jeff. I read the entire article by the Chicago Boyz Lexington Green — TWICE! I did not realize that Beck wore a bulletproof vest; but in view of the threats being made against his life, I am not surprised.

  10. Nuff' said says:

    We The People

  11. Dee says:

    John Buyon, I enjoy having discussions with you but as Randy points out, it is hard to take you seriously when you resort to name calling. We have our differences on issues but when you call someone who disagrees with you names, it is disrespectful and discourages any serious consideration of your side. It appears, as Randy says, that you lack knowledge or facts to back up your arguments. Even “whats_up” doesn’t like name calling.
    I also encourage you to present facts in a mature, respectful manner.
    Always a pleasure, John. Take care.

  12. whats_up says:

    @ Gail

    John, do you find the Founding Fathers’ principles offensive?


    I would be interested to hear what you think the Founding Fathers principals were?

  13. Boston Blackie says:

    Hey John,
    I am sorry to say that I was too late to comment on your remarks. It has all been said already by everyone ahead of me today. Glenn is the new Sarah when it comes to the left and their multiple derangement syndromes.
    As the old saying goes, “What have you done lately”. Oh, that’s right, you are hiding out up north of the border.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Jeff needs more sleep. He’s using smiley faces at 1:20 in the morning. Please don’t tell me Monsieur Buyon has rubbed off on him.

  15. Anonymous says:

    1:06, we’re a goon if we didn’t go to prep school, Occidental, Columbia, Harvard law school, and then take all that expensive education and become a mere community organizer.

  16. Gail B. says:

    @John Buyon

    o Federalist Papers;
    o Declaration of Independence; and
    o The United States Constitution, for starters.

    And, I do not appreciate being referred to as a “goon” because the leftist Progressives are the ones who resort to name calling when they have no information to back up what they say. It’s a diversion meant to put us on the defensive. We are not on the defensive, John. Watch us in November!

    Do you honestly believe that half a million people would have gathered at a rally around our lying Usurper-in-Chief two months before a mid-term election? Democratic candidates would certainly be absent. The Dems had to PAY the SEIU to come from California to Arizona to protest, because there was not a sufficient number of protesters against AZ’s immigration bill. The Dems will probably PAY their organizations’ members and union members to attend the rally in October, too.

    We now have HOPE; we shall show you CHANGE on November 2!

  17. Bob Upton says:


    Your comment about the articles author, one “Lexington Green”, albeit humorous, could use a sprinkling of historical reference circa April 19, 1775. Might be some significance there.

  18. Jeff Schreiber says:

    Bob Upton:

    How utterly embarrassing. It’s tough to type with my face buried in my hands out of shame. Thanks for reminding me. Good grief.

    Incidentally, I’m not going back to edit it. I don’t like doing that.

    Thank you,


  19. Gail B. says:

    Bob Upton–

    Thank you. Although a member of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, I have traced back to ancestors who fought in the Revolution. I THOUGHT “Lexington Green” sounded familiar; and, thanks to you, I now know why. Duh!

  20. Bob Upton says:


    Honestly didn’t mean to make you feel that bad!

    Your responses always show you to be a “man among men”, as they say (or at least they used to say that).

    I believe we will all need to be reminded of the facts and events regarding the founding of our great nation as more of the foundation gets shaken. Hopefully the education will turn us around so we once again grow Liberty’s Tree tall and strong without needing Jefferson’s “natural manure”.

    And Thank You!

  21. John Buyon says:

    interesting thank you for your responses I found them enlightening and overwhelming, what I was hoping to fins many months ago when I first stumbled upon this website.
    although one or two points I would like to make

    1. I’m not an american hero, I don’t position myself as some sort of white MLK in front of 100,000 people speaking about restoring morality, I can not be held to the same standards, as a person who pretends that he is the savior of the white middle class.

    2. goons because these people are nothing new… these aren’t independents riled up, by anti-Obama sentiment. these are the same people who for the past 30 years voted for GOP watched the nation fall from grace by the very same political faction and then voted once again for the same party that destroyed their livelihoods… read “whats the matter with Kansas”

    3. I watched Glenn beck when Bush was in office I liked him much more back then because he admitted that he was a rodeo clown etc… and didn’t get too much involved in historical discussions, I would like to think of myself as a amateur historian and I’m so disgusted by the junk half-assed conspiracy theories he peddles out as history.

    and the only reason I have any respect for him is because he stood up to Bush as well as Obama. although much less to Bush who was much worse.

    @ Dee
    I was not presenting facts just asking a question to Jeff

  22. Jeff Schreiber says:

    Bob, the reason I was so embarrassed is that I was reading about that very event only a few days ago for a side project I’m working on.


  23. Gail B. says:

    John Buyon said, “2. goons because these people are nothing new… these aren’t independents riled up, by anti-Obama sentiment. these are the same people who for the past 30 years voted for GOP watched the nation fall from grace by the very same political faction and then voted once again for the same party that destroyed their livelihoods… read ‘whats the matter with Kansas’.”

    The Lord said, “Judge not, that ye be not judged.”

  24. nana3 says:

    Interesting discussion, Jeff, and I was hoping you would address the rally because I knew it would prompt various responses. John, I am glad to have your comments on this site…we need to hear opposing views…we can all learn from each other and it is to our benefit to ‘engage’. I did attend the rally and also the 9/12 rally last year…I am a wife, mother and grandmother and I don’t think I have ever been referred to as a ‘goon’. While I understand the danger of ‘idolizing’ an individual, whether it be a politician, football coach, athlete or entertainer, I do not believe that is why most went to the is not about Beck, but about our country. Maybe Glenn is like me, I’ve never shed blood for my country or REALLY sacrificed as others have..perhaps that is why many of us feel that it is time for us to stand up and speak out NOW. We CAN do that, we CAN be patriots, we CAN re-acquaint ourselves with our heritage and we CAN vote responsibly and do whatever we can to protect our freedoms. In my opinion, Glenn is a teacher..he discusses ideas and controversial subjects that not many in the media ever think about bringing up. He asks those who want to contradict anything he says to bring out the facts and confront him. Do I agree with everything he says, NO, do I know for sure what is in his heart, NO but I can listen objectively and question diligently..that is my responsibility as a citizen to seek the TRUTH! I have always felt that I was a patriotic American coming from a family with members who have served in every branch of our military. I now realize that there are dangers confronting our country from every direction and I must stay informed and aware of what is happening here and in the world. I have been naive in many respects but I have been awakened and I believe that is what Glenn and others are trying to do. It is for God to judge their motives. I have met people from all over the country at these rallies…we have different religions, races and backgrounds but I have felt the common bond of love for America. As we re-visited the monuments to our great heroes and walked around the memorials to our fallen soldiers, we were reminded once again of the value and price of freedom. There is NO politician, whether Democrat,Independent or Republican (I have voted for all parties in my lifetime) who is above, We, The People, and only one God in whose hands I trust the future of our nation. We are a diverse people and my opinion matters only to me but aren’t we fortunate that we can all express ourselves without the threat of retaliation? I pray that God will give us wisdom and discernment so that we are not misled by ‘personalities’ on either side of the political spectrum.

  25. Randy Wills says:

    Good job, “nana3″.


  26. Here's why says:
  27. Sam says:

    Once again, nana sums it up, eloquently. I’d trade my gift of sarcasm for her gift any day of the week.

  28. Long ago convictions of the heart says:

    At Lexington Green, the British were met by approximately seventy American Minute Men led by John Parker. At the North Bridge in Concord, the British were confronted again, this time by 300 to 400 armed colonists, and were forced to march back to Boston with the Americans firing on them all the way. By the end of the day, the colonists were singing “Yankee Doodle” and the American Revolution had begun.

  29. Sam says:
  30. John Buyon says:

    @ Nana

    the problem I have with understanding this whole Tea movement is
    why now?
    why are you people political motivated and charged now?
    why were you people not excited and participating at :
    end of cold war?
    gulf war 1 ?
    at the turn of the millennium?
    2000 election dispute?
    afghan war?
    Iraq war?
    WMD lies?
    Black water mercenaries?

    ALL OF THE ABOVE situations were much more politically significant than the bailout or Obama or this recession…
    why now?
    the best answer I can really come up with that is logical and not right wing trash news is that

    1. the hardworking white american middle class who built this country have been bankrupted by big business controlled government policies and instead of these patriotic citizens taking up arms against the fat cats and plutocrats at these “think tanks” or on wall street,or the religious leaders who squander the donations of the faithful, and shame a religion, these people get angry at the only 2 institutions that have any motivation or ability of helping them Labor Unions and the government. Plus throw in fears of a demographic shift symbolized by Obama and you get some racist elements creeping up.

  31. Anonymous says:

    “symbolized by Obama and you get some racist elements creeping up.”

    Monsieur, Oh please, I’d love a black president, one 100% black and 100% intelligent.

  32. nana3 says:

    John, those are fair questions but I can only answer for myself. I do think many Americans have protested those issues in various ways whether it was writing letters to elected officials or trying to vote responsibly or actually participating in protests and marches. For me, my disgust with political and corporate corruption along with many other issues has culminated into this realization that we must be more vocal and active in the process. We can’t sit around and worry about what we haven’t done…it has become obvious that our politicians do not care about the people. We are facing threats to our future from many directions and our government is compromising our way of life. Most of our elected officials will only be as honorable as we demand they be by holding them accountable. If it takes a million people in DC to get their attention, that is a worthy effort, in my opinion. As you have mentioned, there is corruption in every segment of society, even in our churches and it is repulsive and disturbing. Morality is no longer a characteristic to be admired but one to be ridiculed. We once trusted the press to bring us the truth but we have been betrayed by them. Perhaps if they had been more diligent about objectively reporting the issues, we could have avoided some of the consequences we face today. I can’t blame my ignorance on anyone but myself because I could have been more knowledgeable and more informed if I had taken the responsibility to seek the truth. The people that I see and meet at these rallies are good people who love this country. When a person in a wheelchair cares enough to mingle with thousands of people and deal with the heat in order to make a statement, it makes me proud…and when I see parents pulling little children to a huge event when it would have been easier to stay home, I know there is hope for our country. What I see at these rallies are Americans and I don’t analyze what color they are or what religion they are…they are stepping up to the plate. Yes, we all should have been this involved before now and yes, our country has made huge mistakes in the past but we have done many things right too. I hope and pray we can preserve what is good and honorable about America while we still have the opportunity. And then, of course, the racial element is always lurking in the background waiting to be the last card on the table as if there would be no defense against it…that is the trump card for many people who cast it with utter disregard for the facts. Will that ever change?

  33. Sam says:

    Someday, I hope we as a nation, can vote a ‘nana’ into the White House. Simply brilliant, nana3.

  34. Dean says:

    John Buyon – Those things you mentioned – NAFTA, Patriot Act, etc. – happened and were protested/supported by the various voices at the time. But this time, TRILLIONS of our dollars being wasted, a national health care plan enacted against the will of the majority of this country’s citizens, union bosses trying to take control of our police forces, Democrat support for legalizing the criminal millions of illegal aliens in our country over the wishes of a vast majority of our citizens, and a Chief Executive now asking (demanding is a more apt word) for billions more of our dollars to waste, … all have come together in a glaring light aimed directly at the lunacy being foisted upon the citizens of this country against our wishes. There has never been anyone like Obama before and will probably never another like him again simply because he does NOT care about what the majority of citizens want him to do. I guess I am one of those “goons” you so often talk about – one of those who you want around for protection when the threats come but don’t want after we have dispatched the threat at the cost of our blood, our sweat and the tears from our eyes and those of millions of our countrymen.


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