Counting People Without Counting People

According to The Washington Post, President Barack Obama has chosen University of Michigan professor Robert Groves as director for the 2010 United States Census. While the jury is still out as to whether Groves is paid-up as far as his taxes are concerned, one thing we do know is that the professor is an outspoken advocate for statistical sampling, the act of counting people by making geographical, demographical and mathematical estimates.

Twelve days ago, in a piece entitled A Crucial Count, I wrote briefly about the importance of the census, the different approaches to taking the census and the constitutionality of each, as well as the role of voter fraud specialists ACORN in the upcoming census. I also wrote that, despite studies showing the pitfalls of statistical sampling, we should not expect the fight for statistical sampling to be over.

Seems I was right.



  1. Gail B says:

    I’m sorry–maybe I’m just a bit bitter (no, make that a lot bitter), but I just do not trust Obama or his minions any farther than I can throw him. Maybe, if someone else had chosen Professor Groves, he might have had a chance in my book! I’m still disenchanted with the idea of the Census being housed in the White House.

    By the way, enumerate means count. An estimate is not a count or enumeration.

    The 14th Amendment, Section 2, states: Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, COUNTING THE WHOLE NUMBER OF PERSONS IN EACH STATE, excluding Indians not taxed….” (emphasis mine)

    As a side piece of information on the Budget Bill that just passed the House, here is a letter from NC Rep. Walter Jones:


    WASHINGTON, D.C. – In a House vote today, Third District Representative Walter B. Jones (R-NC) voted against H. Con. Res. 85, a bill setting forth the congressional budget for the U.S. government for fiscal year 2010. The more than $3.6 trillion budget passed the House by a vote of 233 to 196 and now moves to the Senate.

    Congressman Jones’ statement on the Democrats’ budget follows below:

    “This budget resolution fails to recognize the real concerns of hardworking taxpayers. During difficult times, American families and small businesses make sacrifices and do what they can to tighten their belts and reign in spending. Most people expect the federal government to do the same. Sadly, Washington has chosen to go on a spending spree and ignore the pressing demand for fiscal discipline. Independent estimates have even suggested that roughly 250,000 new federal bureaucrats will be needed to spend all the money outlined in this budget resolution.”

    “While our nation continues to suffer amid a faltering economy – this budget resolution raises income taxes, harming many small businesses that pay taxes at the top two individual rates. It also includes a new energy tax that will cost every household up to $3,128 each year, and a new tax on charitable giving that could cost American charities at least $9 billion per year. Raising taxes during an economic downturn will only hurt small businesses and cost American jobs.”

    “The spending in this budget resolution calls for a $1.2 trillion deficit for 2010, which will lead to unprecedented borrowing from China, the Middle East, and other foreign countries that own our ballooning debt. Problems that have been caused by too much spending and too much debt simply can’t be solved by more government spending and more federal debt. Congress needs to wake up and realize its moral obligation to avoid passing on a mountain of debt to America’s future generations.”

    To view Congressman Jones’ video statement about the budget, please visit:

    Sad. We need to contact our Senators immediately!

  2. Anonymous says:

    Statistical sampling is highly accurate, and a perfect way to determine the makeup of the Congress and hand out all the Federal doles ….

    Just ask President Dewey, who beat Truman … and President Gore, who beat George Bush … statistics never lie …. much …


  3. Anonymous says:

    I cannot get over the fact that we have to call on everything. I had thought these representatves were to represent the people. We call, they do what they want even if the majority do not want it.
    There are those that seem to get re-elected year after year and still get away with distroying our government. I am baffled as to how this can continue to happen.
    This count will not be accurate thereore we will have more crappy representatives passing what the people donot want.
    How can we fix this? How can we get a bill passed for term limits and pay limits? I do not want to pay for retirements on folks when I cannot afford to save for my own retirement.
    I am at a loss as to what the people can do. Riots will not be benefical to anyone but the current idiots in administration.


  4. Gail B says:

    If the illegal aliens can be COUNTED, why can’t they be DEPORTED?

    How convenient–illegal foreign nationals get represented in our Congress! What’s wrong with this picture?

  5. Gail B says:

    The trouble with “estimating” for the census instead of counting is that the census isn’t released to the public for 75 years. (Hello?!)\

    I’ll be 69 this month (29 with 40 years experience). By the time the census can be CHECKED, the damage will have been done. And, yes, I have the mentality for detail and WOULD check it, if I could get my hands on it!

    But, we don’t have to worry, do we? The census will be safe in the hands of Rahm Emanuel, if he doesn’t spill his coffee on it (did you catch the slack I gave him?).

  6. BlueWater says:

    Counting without arresting … hmmm.


  7. toto says:

    It figures they would choose a liberal from Ann Arbor, rated one of the most liberal cities in america. Anything to keep their seats in the house and senate. These guys are just so blatant about their ways, its sickening. One thing I am seeing however, is some of the democrats are starting to wake up, or at least it seems that way, at least some of them voted against the budget, its a start.

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